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- CURRENT MEETING REPORT
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- Reported by Robert Enger/Contel
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- MINUTES
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- The NOCtools working group session was held on Wednesday morning,
- November 1st, during the recent Hawaii IETF meeting. In addition, a
- joint UserDoc/NOCtools meeting was held that afternoon. Attendance was
- larger than noted above; a complete attendee list was not available at
- the time of this writing. A notable absentee was co-chair Bob Stine of
- Sparta who was not able to attend this meeting.
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- Morning discussions included catalog re-organization and index design.
- It was suggested that the catalog be restructured, placing the tutorial
- as an appendix at the end, and adding a table indicating which keywords
- apply to which tools. Considerable controversy arose over catalog
- entries which contained multiple commands. The question was "how does
- one find a command by name, if the the entry containing multiple command
- names can appear only once in the (alphabetically organized) catalog".
- The group is reluctant to introduce a page number based index, because
- of the associated difficulty in making catalog updates. The members
- agreed to suggest to Bob Stine (the "book boss") that the two entries
- containing multiple command names be broken down into multiple entries,
- each containing one command (similar to the rest of the catalog
- entries). Bob has rejected this suggestion because he feels it will
- cause too much expansion and redundancy in the catalog.
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- Concurrent with the index design (table concept) was a discussion of the
- physical limitations of the table. Many of the problems result from the
- desire to make the document usable in a manual, off-line mode. To this
- end, it was decided that the table's ultimate horizontal size should be
- limited to two pages, so that an entire line can be viewed
- simultaneously on two adjoining pages (eg left and right side of a
- book). This in turn limits the number of keywords that can be listed in
- the table. One suggestion from the attendees was to anticipate future
- space problems by eliminating the "environment" (target
- hardware/software platform) keywords from the table to conserve space.
- Since there are currently no space problems it was decided to list the
- entire set of keywords across the top of the table.
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- During the morning meeting we also made numerous corrections to the
- text, as well as adding text to improve clarity and ease of use. We
- also acquired a new catalog entry: HyperMib, a HyperCard based tool
- allowing one to inspect the text of the MIB specification documentation,
- as well as a few new keywords.
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- Bob Stine reminds me to point out that, excepting the multiple-command
- entry suggestion, all other suggestions should now be reflected in the
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- current draft. So, please review the current draft, and feel free to
- make additional suggestions or corrections.
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- After lunch, the joint UserDoc/NOCtools session was held. Discussion
- ranged widely from specific suggestions for product improvement to
- general questions of publicity, technical assistance, and distribution.
- We were joined by Dave Crocker, NOCtools' area director, and received
- cameo appearances from other luminaries too.
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- Specific suggestions for NOCtool catalog improvement included:
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- o Continuing the working group beyond publication of the first draft.
- This would allow the group to:
- - handle the expected volume of "me too" submissions
- - formulate written policy for document up-keep
- - locate an entity capable of assuming the update chores.
- o It is expected that a second edition of the catalog will be
- published when the group disbands, probably around June.
- o Tighten catalog entry format specifications, so that future entries
- will be submitted in near-perfect form, reducing the work load on
- the entity assuming update chores.
- o Add some means of determining the "freshness" of a catalog entry,
- and consider whether entries should be removed. Suggestions:
- - Shelf life/expiration date
- - Date of initial insertion
- - Date of last update.
- o The suggestion which received the most support was the one
- recommending the addition of a "last update" date.
- o Before public announcement of the first edition, it was recommended
- that notification be sent to the IETF mailing list. This would
- provide entry-suppliers with a last opportunity to inspect the
- document before it goes public.
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- Gary Malkin volunteered to write the statement of work detailing the
- duties of the entity that assumes catalog update responsibility.
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- General discussions of import to NOCtools concerned the idea of trying
- to reduce the "administrative" or "procedural" load on working groups
- that produce documents. One suggestion was to elicit the assistance of
- professionals in the field, librarians. It was observed that library
- science is interested in learning how to utilize modern technology, and
- that perhaps the IETF (UserDoc?) could form a joint-research
- relationship with one of the schools. This would provide the IETF with
- valuable technical assistance in the area of document preparation,
- layout, etc, as well as professional assistance in the area of on-going
- document up-keep. It was agreed by most of the attendees that the IETF
- will be faced with more and more "living documents" (those requiring
- periodic update) as time goes on. Alternatively, it was suggested that
- the IAB/IETF approach the funding agencies with a request for money to
- pay for a full time document update and distribution service.
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- On the subject of publicity a number of attendees suggested other groups
- that should be contacted and notified of the existence of the documents.
- Conversation then went on to include suggestions for closer working
- relationships with parallel organizations in the Bitnet and uucp worlds.
- It is believed that each group has much to offer the others.
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- A mailing list, noctools@merit.edu, has been established for the working
- group. As usual, requests to join the list should be directed to
- noctools-request@merit.edu.
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- ATTENDEES
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- Karen Bowers
- Robert Enger
- Steven Hunte
- Gary Malkin
- Keith McCloghrie
- Karen Roubicek
- Mary Stahl
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